J. Edgar Hoover - Being Compromised as Gay Created a Behavioral Template
for the Dangerous Intelligence Community Zealots Coming In Behind Him
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In thinking about this piece about Hoover, in an age in which using
a name someone may find offensive for any reason they make up, I
tried to think how to explain J. Edgar Hoover's behavior, if he was not
trying to protect himself from exposure as a homosexual. If his
behavior was not in defense of being gay, then was Hoover simply a criminal?
It also occurred
to me that if Hoover
was not covering up for being gay, how can his protecting the mafia
from investigation be explained? The FBI took public funds supposedly
to protect the public and yet the FBI knew about the Mafia and did
nothing about them for years.
"Necessity is the Mother of Invention" SO IS FEAR, OPPRESSION. Hoover's desperation to cover his tracks invented the FBI coercive shakedown strategy in use to this day.
As a partial
apology for Hoover's behavior I gave a nod to the
fact that he was gay and would have been persecuted back then because
of it. But there are lots of people that suffer mistreatment and
who do not behave as Hoover did. It was also interesting that the
Kennedys were shut down by Hoover. The fact that senior members
of the mob claimed Joe Kennedy was running booze together with them,
and that
JFK screwed everything he
could, may have allowed Hoover to compromise them to oblivion.
Other presidents may have had use
for Hoover's conduct in their own nefarious ways such as the Democrats
effectively did with Trump and the FBI willingly complied to hone their
tactics, while the elected peons
loved rolling around in the cash in the public trough like hogs far
too much to risk speaking out against a pernicious blackmailer and
shakedown artist who might expose them. The FBI, if nothing else had
and has
immense spying and shakedown powers that could and are being exploited
to their
advantage in America. Compared to the Biden family corruption and the
State Department's support for their corrupt behavior in Ukraine Trump
looks positively saintly. Lucky there are prosecutors who would
be the first to attend a lynching if they could get their name in
lights and the victims were white.
I worked with a
serious lobbyist who invented ways to ingratiate the staff of Senators
and Congressmen, and he did as much as he could for all of them and
their families, actually appreciated them, and spent years benefiting them
whenever he could which enabled him to go directly to them for appointments
and information. They would leak the scuttlebutt of what their
bosses were doing, off the record, a confidence that he religiously
protected. It's one thing for a boss to be an asshole, and quite
another for that boss to expect his/her staff will not leak it.
"Of
all those in the army close to the commander none is more intimate than
the secret agent; of all rewards none more liberal than those given to
secret agents; of all matters none is more confidential than those
relating to secret operations." - Sun Tzu
The other thing to note is the fact that a job and being paid does not
imply trust, loyalty, and willingness to go the distance required to
protect the boss. It is simply a financial necessity facilitated
by an economic model that streams profits and power upwards. A
job for almost everyone is an economic necessity and it takes real
ingenuity to turn it into a personal mission people will die for.
Top that off with an asshole in charge and you have the foundations of
mutiny, bounded only by fear. I did a project for one of the
largest companies in the world whose products killed millions.
Curious, I asked multiple employees how they could work for them and
the explanations were simple, they paid a lot more in salaries and
benefits than anyone else and they justified the fact that since
everyone knew the products were harmful the customers were making the
choice to kill themselves.
If however you do not have employees by their cajones financially,
which unfortunately our economies do on their behalf, then the only
tactic that can be used to keep the troops in line is constant
bullshit, properly framed by pretty boys and girls in the media and
backstopped by name calling, pressure from the deluded, and outright
fear. The backwash from that approach however is when the public
wakes up, they no longer execute you cleanly with Marquess of
Queensbury rules, they may go a lot farther. Lying about
vaccines, inflation, trying to rig elections, starting illegitimate
wars, and telling people they are ignorant, stupid, deplorable and
garbage is the road to oblivion. The recent death of the United
Healthcare CEO is portrayed in the mainstream news media as a senseless act of violence. But what if it exposes complete rejection of the way things work?. Or from the shooters mind? UnitedHealth Group CEO addresses Brian Thompson death, says health-care system is ‘flawed’
"Regard
your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the
deepest valleys; look on them as your own beloved sons, and they will
stand by you even unto death." - Sun Tzu
What do you call a government attacking Iraq based on
absolute lies,
Jewish action in Gaza, telling parents their underage children do not
have to listen to them, exposing them to men dressed up like clowns in
school without once mentioning the fact that the clowns' behavior,
notwithstanding the fact that they might look like Ronald McDonald,
exposes
them to a deadly virus with no cure, just a $20,000 annual payment to
drug companies to put it possibly into remission ? Merciful acts
of God by benevolent
Christians saving the world? Better check your references.
Purdue Pharma for example, spent millions promoting Oxycontin, a highly
addictive drug that caused an opiod epidemic, in multiple nefarious
ways, and got away with fines and no admission of guilt. Are you
going to suggest that is a penaly sufficient? Murder for
money? Please.
"If ignorant both of your enemy and yourself, you are certain to be in peril." - Sun Tzu
The lobbyist and I went for lunch one time in a Georgetown restaurant
and before we got to the door, which was guarded, he instructed me to
follow him, look at his back only, and do not look around or directly
at anyone. That in itself made me try to perfect the side eye
glance, and the little I did see was old guys ogling much younger
people I assume were their junior staff. You can be 70 years old,
full of yourself, and still want to play with your young and vulnerable
staff members, male or female. For them it would kind of be like
being licked by a Char Pei dog with bad breath for a few kibbles as a
reward I guess.
It
not OK to single out anyone in a derogatory
manner because of their sexual orientation, However, in the era Hoover
was alive it likely drove a capable person like Hoover to become
a blackmailer and
shakedown artist to protect himself against what today would barely
attract notice. Hoover
learned how effective shakedowns were from the mob considering the fact
the mob had recordings of his queering in the bathroom of the Stork
Club and confronted him with it. A senior mob guy, Michael Franzese talks about the hooks the mob had into Hoover in the previous link. Franzese was was a caporegime in the Colombo crime family, and son of former underboss Sonny Franzese. Michael Franzese also talks about being a homosexual in the Mafia would get you killed in another interview.
Regardless of anything, Hoover's behavior enshrined unacceptable and in some cases criminal conduct in the FBI and
intelligence community, that to this day is not being reigned in, to the
detriment of all Americans. The ACLU at one time called for reigning in the FBI and the intelligence community's behavior. A link to the FBI files here.
J Edgar Hoover was clearly an intelligent and capable person, but being a homosexual carried enormous
personal baggage, especially for someone in Hoover's position. The fear of being identified as a homosexual may have
driven Hoover to shield his deep seated anxiety about being sexually
attracted to men with the creation of one of the most aggressive, and largely
illegal
domestic spying operations (and here), (and
here)
created at the time. In the process Hoover built a culture of leadership that
understands you can shakedown anyone if you have enough on them, or
simply make up what you don't have and destroy them anyhow.
The Guardian: The secret life of J Edgar Hoover
BBC Timewatch - The Secret File On J Edgar Hoover (video 47 minutes)
Hoover's attraction to men is most likely the reason why
Hoover refused
to admit the mafia existed for more than 20 years. If the mob had
anything on Hoover, they certainly would use it against him, and there
is historical evidence they
did (-2-).
The mob is certainly no different than any other criminal organization,
and all of them as history shows try to compromise
the government and
police
(link updated) to protect their cash flows. Drug
cartels are a case in
point. The lesson from all of this it is that a
person's capabilities that count, and not their sexual orientation.
Racist Homosexual. J Edgar Hoover #1
Racist Homosexual. J Edgar Hoover #2
Racist Homosexual. J Edgar Hoover #3
Hoover abused his position as the head of the FBI to get dirt
on anyone in a position to expose him as a homosexual. In doing so Hoover
pioneered using the intelligence
apparatus under his control to spy
on anyone that could threaten him, that he he did not like, or that
he
disagreed with, destroying
the lives of those he targeted in the process. It showed how vindictive Hoover and the FBI was and is now. The secret processes
the FBI and the intelligence agencies operate under today entrenched
the tactics and methods Hoover in many respects pioneered and refined,
as current revelations
of FBI conduct in
the run up to the 2016 election show. Comey is only one example of
that
behavior in the intelligence community, and it is continuing today.
Glenn
Greenwald: U.S. intelligence “interference” in 2020 presidential
election.
Ex-FBI unit chief blows whistle on Comey, McCabe over warrantless spying
Democrat Nadler Cancels Judiciary Hearing on Reforming FISA Warrantless Spying
How Widespread is Domestic Political Spying?
The Democrats
celebrated Comey's
conduct regarding the persecution of Trump, as if the tables will never
be turned by the Repulicans or the intelligence agencies. Their
celebration exposes the fallacy of political
expediency. What everyone, no matter what political stripe, should want
to observe carefully is how intelligence agencies corrupt the
entire operation of democratic societies with their shakedowns, illegal
activities, conspiracy with news agencies to propagandize the nation, with a mind to destroy and control people. These guys are a threat to everyone, and unless they are reined in, their arrogance, abuse of
power, and willingness to lie will undermine the fabric of the nation.
Its a matter of remembering who they work for and taking back control
of their conduct, or better yet, flip the script. Two can play the game.
I did not know J. Edgar Hoover, but a close relative, a Princeton graduated accountant seconded to the US during the second
world war, knew Hoover well. He was a capable, extremely well connected businessman and Vice President of Patino Mining,
described in the link under "The tin, aluminum and nickel
giants." He
and Hoover were long time friends. He told me Hoover
asked him to buy two horse
racing tracks to help Hoover, who liked to play the ponies, and who
said the tracks Hoover wanted him to buy had mob ties, which Hoover at
that stage wanted to avoid completely. One
track was in Freehold,
New
Jersey and the other was in Bowie, Maryland just outside the DC
beltway. My relative said he had to modify the view from the stands in
the covered areas so that the betters could not see who was
inside. Hoover
was sexually involved with Clyde Tolson, and in private dining events
when in the company of my relatives and trusted friends, Hoover and Tolson behaved like a gay
couple.
I was working at the time providing training to life insurance
companies and was challenged to find ways to help trainees make long
term behavior
changes. Compared to programs like Weight Watchers and Alcoholic Anonymous, the military is one of the greatest behavior change
organizations in the world and I wanted to know how they did it. My relative
called Hoover on my behalf to see if he could provide
insight
into the processes they used and Hoover gave him reams of documents to
send to me that explained the processes used as well as future programs
being
worked on. Simply put military and intelligence agencies have been
working on ways to change and control behavior for many years, both for
recruits and for the public
at large. The record shows they are not constrained by any moral code,
lives lost, or damage they do to society, domestic or foreign.
One
of the keys to
behavior change in certain settings is simply changing it, no
permission required. Think boot camp or how we bring up our young
children. As a point of interest, having people you want to train over
a barrel financially, or having something on them, are not motivational
tools! Good way to create an uprising through.
When I began using the information
from the material
Hoover provided it
worked better than I could have imagined. In reporting back to my relative
about the results I was seeing he asked a simple question "Do I
want to give this knowledge away to the insurance companies I provided
training
for?" and I said no. He then told me to quit what I was doing
immediately and come to work with him, which I did.
Secret operations are essential in war; upon them the army relies to make its every move. - Sun Tzu
Out of curiosity
one day while visiting one of the tracks I asked my relative's wife
about Hoover and Tolson, who she knew. She told me
she could tell Hoover and Tolson were a gay couple from the
private time they spent together. She had a unique perspective on the
issue
given that her first husband turned out to be a switch hitter.
It may explain why Hoover would want to cover his tracks, but
it is no excuse for totally unaccountable intelligence agencies using
the tactics criminally against Americans. Nor is it an excuse for
a political party to exploit that criminality for their own purposes.
And to top it off the completely and utterly worthless mainstream media
to ignore all of the tactics that were used by the FBI while being
directed by the White House and DOJ against a political opponent shows
exactly how far off the ranch these criminals have strayed.